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* [https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/wolverine Soma Wolverine "B" Moss Green] 56CM -- finally back in stock February 2022 | * [https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/wolverine Soma Wolverine "B" Moss Green] 56CM -- finally back in stock February 2022 | ||
* Soma Wolverine unicrown fork, also green | * Soma Wolverine unicrown fork, also green | ||
* Deda 215 drop bars with a 26mm center, so I had to buy 26->31.8 shims for the stem and the shifter. Got | * Deda 215 drop bars with a 26mm center, so I had to buy 26->31.8 shims for the stem and the shifter. Got this handlebar used in a shop in Sebastopol. | ||
* Interloc Racing Design 1-1/8" headset | * Interloc Racing Design 1-1/8" headset | ||
* Dimension stem 80mm x 83/97 degree 31.8mm (that's 1 1/4") (Universal calls it 83/97, the box called it 7 degree.) | * Dimension stem 80mm x 83/97 degree 31.8mm (that's 1 1/4") (Universal calls it 83/97, the box called it 7 degree.) | ||
* Problem Solvers Locking Headset spacer and a bunch of black anodized spacers. I like bars high. | * Problem Solvers Locking Headset spacer and a bunch of black anodized spacers. I like bars high. | ||
* Rohloff 500/14 Speedhub (32 hole) with Co-motion shifter | * Rohloff 500/14 Speedhub (32 hole) with Co-motion shifter; the Co-motion shifter will fit on a drop bar.m Stock Rohloff would be fine on flat bars. | ||
* DT Swiss 350 front hub (32 hole) 15mm through axle centerlock disc | * DT Swiss 350 front hub (32 hole) 15mm through axle centerlock disc | ||
* [https://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/quill-622 Velocity Quill rims] 32 hole black 700C, ERD 589 | * [https://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/quill-622 Velocity Quill rims] 32 hole black 700C, ERD 589 | ||
* DT Swiss Competition 2.0 double butted spokes on the back 263 mm on both sides. | * DT Swiss Competition 2.0 double butted spokes on the back 263 mm on both sides. | ||
* DT Swiss Champion 2.0 on the front, 280 and 282, I ended up having Universal build the wheel because I bought the wrong spokes. First I tried 288/286 then I tried 286/284. Stupid DT calculator. Grrr. | * DT Swiss Champion 2.0 on the front, 280 and 282, I ended up having Universal build the wheel because I bought the wrong spokes. First I tried 288/286 then I tried 286/284. Stupid DT spoke length calculator. Grrr. | ||
* DT Swiss 12mm nipples | * DT Swiss 12mm nipples | ||
* Shimano FC-S501 Alfine Crankset / integrated external bearing bottom bracket | * Shimano FC-S501 Alfine Crankset / integrated external bearing bottom bracket; Universal picked this one for me and it works great. | ||
* Gates 50T chainring 130mm x 5 bolt | * Gates 50T chainring 130mm x 5 bolt; this combination of 50x19 works well on the hills here. | ||
* Magura MT-8 Pro Carbon hydraulic disc brakes - these | * Magura MT-8 Pro Carbon hydraulic disc brakes - these ended up on J's Civia Parkway, wow what a great upgrade! Would use if I had flat bars. | ||
* Tektro R340 brake levers and TRP Spyre Post Mount mechanical disc brakes, sadly there are no Magura brakes for drop bars and I want drops. | * Tektro R340 brake levers and TRP Spyre Post Mount mechanical disc brakes, sadly there are no Magura brakes for drop bars and I want drops. | ||
* TRP adapters for the post mount brakes, front and rear. | * TRP adapters for the post mount brakes, front and rear. | ||
* Magura Storm 160mm rotors, front and rear | * Magura Storm 160mm rotors, front and rear, I got these because I was using Magura brakes but needed one for the Rohloff hub so they match front and rear. | ||
* Gates CDX sprocket stainless steel 19t | * Gates CDX sprocket stainless steel 19t | ||
* Gates Carbon Drive CDX belt 155t x 1265mm | * Gates Carbon Drive CDX belt 155t x 1265mm | ||
* Continental Gatorskin black 700x28 tires, these fit too tightly on the Quill rims, and I want some thing a little fatter on this bike. | * Continental Gatorskin black 700x28 tires, these fit too tightly on the Quill rims, and I want some thing a little fatter on this bike. I'd go maybe 700x32? | ||
* For the Quill rims, you want a medium-longish stem at least 40mm on the tube and minimum of 28mm diameter, 28-32 is good. | * For the Quill rims, you want a medium-longish valve stem at least 40mm on the tube and minimum of 28mm diameter, 28-32 is good. | ||
* Rim tape, I bought about 5 sizes LOL and the best for this rim was Continental "Easy Tape" in the 18mm width. | * Rim tape, I bought about 5 sizes LOL and the best for this rim was Continental "Easy Tape" in the 18mm width. | ||
* Ritchey classic 2 bolt seatpost 27.2mm x 350mm (Someday I should cut it.) | * Ritchey classic 2 bolt seatpost 27.2mm x 350mm (Someday I should cut it. It's quite long.) | ||
* Thomson seatpost clamp 29.8mm | * Thomson seatpost clamp 29.8mm | ||
* Fenders, I think I have a set leftover from the [[Raleigh Alyeska]], but they don't really fit. | * Fenders, I think I have a set leftover from the [[Raleigh Alyeska]], but they don't really fit. I need a new set. | ||
* Salsa Gel Cork tape HT2214 They call it "yellow" I call it "lovely orangey goes with Olive, earth tone vibe." | * Salsa Gel Cork tape HT2214 They call it "yellow" I call it "lovely orangey goes well with Olive, earth tone vibe." | ||
* Rear rack? The [[Davidson Discovery]] set up with a small rack and Carradice bag has been great. I have many | * Rear rack? The [[Davidson Discovery]] set up with a small rack and Carradice bag has been great. I have many racks in storage right now. Maybe the Tubus that came on the [[Longbikes Slipstream]]? Ha. Not sure where that one is right now. Probably going with a Cetma 5 rail rack on the front instead of a rear rack. | ||
== Dropouts and hangers == | == Dropouts and hangers == | ||
The mechanic setting up my crankset reported the derailleur side drop out was bent, probably in shipping. I took this opportunity to order | The mechanic setting up my crankset reported the derailleur side drop out was bent, probably in shipping. I took this opportunity to order special Rohloff dropouts from ([https://www.paragonmachineworks.com/hangers-inserts/adjustable-dropouts/10-mm-right-side-insert-for-sliding-dropout-no-hanger-choose-color.html https://www.paragonmachineworks.com/] Paragon Machine Works). They are beautiful. According to | ||
special Rohloff dropouts from ([https://www.paragonmachineworks.com/hangers-inserts/adjustable-dropouts/10-mm-right-side-insert-for-sliding-dropout-no-hanger-choose-color.html https://www.paragonmachineworks.com/] Paragon Machine Works). They are beautiful. According to | |||
(https://www.mtbr.com/threads/info-on-soma-tange-ird-adjustable-dropouts-analog-juice-b-side-wolverine.962971/ this MTBR link) I can use any | (https://www.mtbr.com/threads/info-on-soma-tange-ird-adjustable-dropouts-analog-juice-b-side-wolverine.962971/ this MTBR link) I can use any | ||
(https://www.paragonmachineworks.com/hangers-inserts/inserts.html Paragon Machine Works sliding dropout inserts) | (https://www.paragonmachineworks.com/hangers-inserts/inserts.html Paragon Machine Works sliding dropout inserts) | ||
with the Soma Interloc/Tange dropouts. | with the Soma Interloc/Tange dropouts. | ||
This is good information. | This is good information. | ||
The (https://www.paragonmachineworks.com/faqs/adjustable-dropouts.html Paragon website has excellent technical information), | The (https://www.paragonmachineworks.com/faqs/adjustable-dropouts.html Paragon website has excellent technical information), | ||
the Tange and Interloc sites have '''nothing'''. Soma has the specs I needed to start learning and ordering parts. | the Tange and Interloc sites have '''nothing'''. Soma has the specs I needed to start learning and ordering parts. | ||
The ones I got have no derailleur hanger on the right (cleaner look) and a deep dropout on the left that | The ones I got have no derailleur hanger on the right (cleaner look) and a deep dropout on the left that accepts the Rohloff mounting plate that I had to order from ENGLAND. | ||
== Hardware == | == Hardware == | ||
Latest revision as of 04:45, 9 May 2024
I'm living in Astoria. It rains here. All the time.
I think I will name this bike "Moss". Nope. She is Olive.
Initial component specs October 2021, updated on completion May 2023
- Soma Wolverine "B" Moss Green 56CM -- finally back in stock February 2022
- Soma Wolverine unicrown fork, also green
- Deda 215 drop bars with a 26mm center, so I had to buy 26->31.8 shims for the stem and the shifter. Got this handlebar used in a shop in Sebastopol.
- Interloc Racing Design 1-1/8" headset
- Dimension stem 80mm x 83/97 degree 31.8mm (that's 1 1/4") (Universal calls it 83/97, the box called it 7 degree.)
- Problem Solvers Locking Headset spacer and a bunch of black anodized spacers. I like bars high.
- Rohloff 500/14 Speedhub (32 hole) with Co-motion shifter; the Co-motion shifter will fit on a drop bar.m Stock Rohloff would be fine on flat bars.
- DT Swiss 350 front hub (32 hole) 15mm through axle centerlock disc
- Velocity Quill rims 32 hole black 700C, ERD 589
- DT Swiss Competition 2.0 double butted spokes on the back 263 mm on both sides.
- DT Swiss Champion 2.0 on the front, 280 and 282, I ended up having Universal build the wheel because I bought the wrong spokes. First I tried 288/286 then I tried 286/284. Stupid DT spoke length calculator. Grrr.
- DT Swiss 12mm nipples
- Shimano FC-S501 Alfine Crankset / integrated external bearing bottom bracket; Universal picked this one for me and it works great.
- Gates 50T chainring 130mm x 5 bolt; this combination of 50x19 works well on the hills here.
- Magura MT-8 Pro Carbon hydraulic disc brakes - these ended up on J's Civia Parkway, wow what a great upgrade! Would use if I had flat bars.
- Tektro R340 brake levers and TRP Spyre Post Mount mechanical disc brakes, sadly there are no Magura brakes for drop bars and I want drops.
- TRP adapters for the post mount brakes, front and rear.
- Magura Storm 160mm rotors, front and rear, I got these because I was using Magura brakes but needed one for the Rohloff hub so they match front and rear.
- Gates CDX sprocket stainless steel 19t
- Gates Carbon Drive CDX belt 155t x 1265mm
- Continental Gatorskin black 700x28 tires, these fit too tightly on the Quill rims, and I want some thing a little fatter on this bike. I'd go maybe 700x32?
- For the Quill rims, you want a medium-longish valve stem at least 40mm on the tube and minimum of 28mm diameter, 28-32 is good.
- Rim tape, I bought about 5 sizes LOL and the best for this rim was Continental "Easy Tape" in the 18mm width.
- Ritchey classic 2 bolt seatpost 27.2mm x 350mm (Someday I should cut it. It's quite long.)
- Thomson seatpost clamp 29.8mm
- Fenders, I think I have a set leftover from the Raleigh Alyeska, but they don't really fit. I need a new set.
- Salsa Gel Cork tape HT2214 They call it "yellow" I call it "lovely orangey goes well with Olive, earth tone vibe."
- Rear rack? The Davidson Discovery set up with a small rack and Carradice bag has been great. I have many racks in storage right now. Maybe the Tubus that came on the Longbikes Slipstream? Ha. Not sure where that one is right now. Probably going with a Cetma 5 rail rack on the front instead of a rear rack.
Dropouts and hangers
The mechanic setting up my crankset reported the derailleur side drop out was bent, probably in shipping. I took this opportunity to order special Rohloff dropouts from (https://www.paragonmachineworks.com/ Paragon Machine Works). They are beautiful. According to (https://www.mtbr.com/threads/info-on-soma-tange-ird-adjustable-dropouts-analog-juice-b-side-wolverine.962971/ this MTBR link) I can use any (https://www.paragonmachineworks.com/hangers-inserts/inserts.html Paragon Machine Works sliding dropout inserts) with the Soma Interloc/Tange dropouts. This is good information.
The (https://www.paragonmachineworks.com/faqs/adjustable-dropouts.html Paragon website has excellent technical information), the Tange and Interloc sites have nothing. Soma has the specs I needed to start learning and ordering parts.
The ones I got have no derailleur hanger on the right (cleaner look) and a deep dropout on the left that accepts the Rohloff mounting plate that I had to order from ENGLAND.
Hardware
qty usage size 4 Dropouts M8 x 1.25 x 18 mm
racks and fenders
water bottles - glass filled fiberglass, 100 for $17 tensile strength 27,000 - these are to fill the extra holes and be impervious to water and very light. 6 in the frame and 6 in the fork
M5 x 10mm PMW $4.45 MC grade2 socket head $3.19, cap head grade 5 $11
Ti screws can take higher torque, which makes them good for the dropout hangers.
There are no button head screws from McMaster. SS with tensile strength 70,000 would be $11 for 25 screws. Hex head (which I can't use) Ti are $14 each and tensile strength 130,000
Ever had a critical SS screw break off? Hmm I have... Ti is far stronger...
(https://mcmaster.com McMaster-Carr)
Paragon Machine Works- (https://www.paragonmachineworks.com/catalog/product/view/id/3560/s/titanium-screws-for-conventional-sliding-dropouts-choose-style/category/468/ Dropout screws)
