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Neo Freerunner
[[Category: Openmoko]]


ME 354651011662048
I have a '''Neo Freerunner'''. I got it to experiment with putting Linux and GPS together on a small handheld device. The fact that it happens to have a cellphone built-in was not a factor when I bought it.
S/N 8A8603722
 
DATE CODE 20080621
Now it turns out that I am now using it as a phone and not using GPS at all. I still '''want''' to us the GPS but time and the other 14 GPS receivers that I have available all conspire against me.
GSM 850/1800/1900
 
I came by a $20 cellphone demo SIM card so I tested out the Neo's cellphone capabilities. I was able to test both GSM voice and GPRS data services for a month. I discovered my phone had the buzz problem and had it fixed in June.
 
Now I am using a pay-as-you-go T-Mobile SIM, and the Neo works great as a phone.
 
I am using a 4GB Sandisk MicroSD card. To avoid known problems with GPS on the FreeRunner I use an external antenna when I play with the GPS.
 
== Current distribution: SHR ==
 
2010-12-31 Just updated after not using the phone most of the year.
Using Qi bootloader now because it's supposed to allow GPS to work with current SHR image. Using the phone to try to do more [[FoxtrotGPS]] development.
 
2010-Jan-03 -- After reading the survey on the OpenMoko list I decided to try the SHR image.
 
== Favourite so far: QTmoko ==
 
In January 2009 I settled in on the "QT Extended" image. Shortly thereafter, Trolltech stopped supporting it and it morphed into the community supported QTmoko image. That's what I use.
 
[http://qtmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page QTMoko Wiki]
 
[http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qtmoko/ QTMoko downloads]


Using a 4GB Sandisk MicroSD card and a T-Mobile card
=== Basics ===


== Testing distributions ==
Shutdown - hold down power key.


I have had so many distributions loaded, the poor thing must be very confused.
Wake from suspend - tap power key.
 
[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking USB Networking]


Openmoko says that the "way forward" is FSO but it's just a framework right now.
On Raven
sudo ip address add 192.168.0.200/24 dev eth2
sudo ip link set dev eth2 up


'''OM2008.12''' -
=== Not so basic ===
Now built on QTopia so still probably a good choice for me. More notes below in next section.


'''FSO''' - just a framework, not usable for anything except development. Illume
Stuff I want to do.


'''SHR''' - FSO + some extras - "S" is for stable but it's not done yet! Phone works. There was no "testing" rootfs so I used the "unstable" (it was the only choice!) Illume SHR
Bring up a WiFi connection -  


'''Android''' - Phone app crashes every 30 seconds. UI seems a bit lightweight. Seems like a toy to me.
Using a bluetooth headset for phone calls


'''QT Extended''' - very nice but lacks an ssh server. Seems very solid and user interface is good. Could not find WiFi support. (Perhaps I just need extra packages for ssh and wifi?)
Using a bluetooth headphones with media player and phone calls


'''FDOM''' - too much cruft, like the name says "Fat and Dirty", cluttered UI
==== GPRS networking with TMobile ====
Tried it out last year around August.


'''Debian''' - planning on loading it tomorrow
Works fine once you know the secrets:
http://johnsu01.livejournal.com/232100.html?view=280228#t280228


'''Gentoo''' - have not tried it; hard to believe, huh?
It's a ppp connection so have the extra kernel modules installed.
Make the /etc/ppp/ link to /var/run/resolv.conf so that names get resolved.


== Current set up ==
== Other distributions that I tried ==


As of Jan 22 2009:
I have had so many distributions loaded, the poor thing must be very confused.
# OM2008.12 on the internal flash.
# I plan on putting Debian on the SD card. Still working with OM setup.
# Qi bootloader


There are lots of good notes at http://www.teaparty.net/technotes/openmoko-3.html
Openmoko says that the "way forward" is FSO but it's just a framework right now.


First time through I had to boot from NOR, seems happy with Qi now.
'''OM2008.12''' - Crashed too often when I had it set up with a usable set of tools. [[Openmoko with OM2008.12]]
Boot time is quick now, that is very good.


The phone works. I got my first junk phone call last night.
'''FSO''' - just a framework, not usable for anything except development. Illume
Network connection came right up. But the damn phone goes to sleep...
in settings, change Suspend to OFF if you want to ssh into the phone for more than 60 seconds!


OM default theme has a useless keyboard.
'''SHR''' - FSO + some extras - "S" is for stable but it's not done yet! Phone works. There was no "testing" rootfs so I used the "unstable" (it was the only choice!) Illume SHR
I tried the hack on teaparty.net to change to Illume but the phone kept crashing. Now I am trying the suggestion to install the package thusly:
opkg install illume-config


== Basics ==
'''Android''' - Phone app crashes every 30 seconds. UI seems a bit lightweight. Seems like a toy to me.


Shutdown - hold down power key.
'''QT Extended''' - very nice. Seems very solid and user interface is good. Could not find WiFi support. (Perhaps I just need extra package for wifi?)


Wake from suspend - tap power key.
'''FDOM''' - too much cruft, like the name says "Fat and Dirty", cluttered UI
Tried it out last year around August.


Answer a phone call -
'''Debian''' - planning on loading it tomorrow


Hang up a phone call -
'''Gentoo''' - have not tried it; hard to believe, huh?


== Not so basic ==
== My phone ==


Bring up a WiFi connection -
ME 354651011662048<br>
S/N 8A8603722<br>
DATE CODE 20080621<br>
GSM 850/1800/1900


Using a bluetooth headset for phone calls
== Mailing list ==


Using a bluetooth headphones with media player and phone calls
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Latest revision as of 14:50, 14 August 2011


I have a Neo Freerunner. I got it to experiment with putting Linux and GPS together on a small handheld device. The fact that it happens to have a cellphone built-in was not a factor when I bought it.

Now it turns out that I am now using it as a phone and not using GPS at all. I still want to us the GPS but time and the other 14 GPS receivers that I have available all conspire against me.

I came by a $20 cellphone demo SIM card so I tested out the Neo's cellphone capabilities. I was able to test both GSM voice and GPRS data services for a month. I discovered my phone had the buzz problem and had it fixed in June.

Now I am using a pay-as-you-go T-Mobile SIM, and the Neo works great as a phone.

I am using a 4GB Sandisk MicroSD card. To avoid known problems with GPS on the FreeRunner I use an external antenna when I play with the GPS.

Current distribution: SHR

2010-12-31 Just updated after not using the phone most of the year. Using Qi bootloader now because it's supposed to allow GPS to work with current SHR image. Using the phone to try to do more FoxtrotGPS development.

2010-Jan-03 -- After reading the survey on the OpenMoko list I decided to try the SHR image.

Favourite so far: QTmoko

In January 2009 I settled in on the "QT Extended" image. Shortly thereafter, Trolltech stopped supporting it and it morphed into the community supported QTmoko image. That's what I use.

QTMoko Wiki

QTMoko downloads

Basics

Shutdown - hold down power key.

Wake from suspend - tap power key.

USB Networking

On Raven

sudo ip address add 192.168.0.200/24 dev eth2
sudo ip link set dev eth2 up
ssh [email protected]

Not so basic

Stuff I want to do.

Bring up a WiFi connection -

Using a bluetooth headset for phone calls

Using a bluetooth headphones with media player and phone calls

GPRS networking with TMobile

Works fine once you know the secrets: http://johnsu01.livejournal.com/232100.html?view=280228#t280228

It's a ppp connection so have the extra kernel modules installed. Make the /etc/ppp/ link to /var/run/resolv.conf so that names get resolved.

Other distributions that I tried

I have had so many distributions loaded, the poor thing must be very confused.

Openmoko says that the "way forward" is FSO but it's just a framework right now.

OM2008.12 - Crashed too often when I had it set up with a usable set of tools. Openmoko with OM2008.12

FSO - just a framework, not usable for anything except development. Illume

SHR - FSO + some extras - "S" is for stable but it's not done yet! Phone works. There was no "testing" rootfs so I used the "unstable" (it was the only choice!) Illume SHR

Android - Phone app crashes every 30 seconds. UI seems a bit lightweight. Seems like a toy to me.

QT Extended - very nice. Seems very solid and user interface is good. Could not find WiFi support. (Perhaps I just need extra package for wifi?)

FDOM - too much cruft, like the name says "Fat and Dirty", cluttered UI Tried it out last year around August.

Debian - planning on loading it tomorrow

Gentoo - have not tried it; hard to believe, huh?

My phone

ME 354651011662048
S/N 8A8603722
DATE CODE 20080621
GSM 850/1800/1900

Mailing list

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