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I have to abandon keeping Wildsong.biz on Google Mail
I have to abandon keeping Wildsong.biz on Google Mail
because over the years it evolved from being just email
because over the years Google evolved the service offereing from being just email
to being a "suite" of tools that I don't need or want,
to being a "suite" of tools that I don't need or want,
and then finally became a for-pay only service.
and then finally used the "suite" as a justification for it to be a for-pay only service.
All that's fair, but I am not motivated to pay for the suite when all I need is email.


I still like the spam protection and the search features.
I still like their spam protection and the search features.
Maybe I will move elsewhere later but for now I just want to forward
I will move elsewhere later but for now I just want to forward
mail to new addresses.
mail to new gmail addresses.


# Set up new gmail accounts
# Forward from existing wildsong accounts to new gmail accounts
# Set up email forwarder for wildsong.biz
# Set up email forwarder for wildsong.biz
# Set up new gmail accounts
# Move devices (phones and tablets) to new address
# Move devices (phones and tablets) to new address
# Move old email to new gmail account.
# Move old email to new gmail account.

Revision as of 18:29, 16 April 2022

I have to abandon keeping Wildsong.biz on Google Mail because over the years Google evolved the service offereing from being just email to being a "suite" of tools that I don't need or want, and then finally used the "suite" as a justification for it to be a for-pay only service. All that's fair, but I am not motivated to pay for the suite when all I need is email.

I still like their spam protection and the search features. I will move elsewhere later but for now I just want to forward mail to new gmail addresses.

  1. Set up new gmail accounts
  2. Forward from existing wildsong accounts to new gmail accounts
  3. Set up email forwarder for wildsong.biz
  4. Move devices (phones and tablets) to new address
  5. Move old email to new gmail account.

I think I am going to use my VPS at Tektonic.net as the SMTP server (for now at least) since I already have an account that I have to keep going there.

Exim4 on Debian-- This is a new thing for me, I am a Postfix guy, or I used to be. Ironically the first tutorial I looked at was for ISPconfig, which uses Postfix.

apt remove exim4-base exim4-config exim4-daemon-light 
apt install postfix postgrey 

DNS settings

SMTP authentication - so I can forward mail from Google (and my own servers). https://www.bluehost.com/help/article/email-client-enable-smtp-authentication

Server: mail.DOMAINNAME
Port: 465 with SSL

Access Bluehost from GMAIL: https://www.bluehost.com/help/article/access-your-email-in-gmail

Filtering - Bluehost has SpamAssassin. They have "SpamExperts" but it's a subscription service

Forward mail from one gmail account to another

[email protected] -> [email protected]

Move mail from one gmail account to another

Google uses POP3 to transfer mail between accounts. Strangely Google does not allow Google to import mail from Google. In the old account you have to allow "less secure" apps and do a captcha thing. The process is not documented by Google, it's described in a community posting.

Google's process to describe transferring mail is described by a user, not by Google. Whatever.