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I'm living in Astoria. It rains here. All the time.
I'm living in Astoria. It rains here. All the time.


I think I will name this bike "Moss".
I think I will name this bike "Moss". Nope. She is Olive.


Initial component specs October 2021
Initial component specs October 2021, updated on completion May 2023


* [https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/wolverine Soma Wolverine "B" Moss Green] 56CM -- finally back in stock February 2022
* [https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/wolverine Soma Wolverine "B" Moss Green] 56CM -- finally back in stock February 2022
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* DT Swiss 350 front hub (32 hole) 15mm through axle centerlock disc
* DT Swiss 350 front hub (32 hole) 15mm through axle centerlock disc
* [https://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/quill-622 Velocity Quill rims] 32 hole black 700C, ERD 589
* [https://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/quill-622 Velocity Quill rims] 32 hole black 700C, ERD 589
* DT Swiss Competition 2.0 double butted spokes
* DT Swiss Competition 2.0 double butted spokes on the back 263 mm on both sides.
* DT Swiss 12mm nipples
* DT Swiss 12mm nipples
* Magura MT-8 Pro Carbon hydraulic disc brakes
* I ended up having Universal build the front wheel because I bought the wrong spokes. First I tried 288/286 then I tried 286/284. Stupid DT calculator. Grrr.
* Magura Storm 160mm rotors
* Magura MT-8 Pro Carbon hydraulic disc brakes - these end up on J's Civia Parkway, wow what a great upgrade!
* TRP Spyre mechanical disc brakes, sadly there are no Magura brakes for drop bars and I want drops.
* Magura Storm 160mm rotors, front and rear
* Gates CDX sprocket stainless steel 19t
* Gates CDX sprocket stainless steel 19t
* Gates Carbon Drive CDX belt 155t x 1265mm
* Gates Carbon Drive CDX belt 155t x 1265mm
* Weird kind of drop bars with 31.8mm center section
* Deda 215 drop bars with a 26mm center, so I had to buy 26->31.8 shims for the stem and the shifter. Got these used in a shop in Sebastopol.
* Continental Gatorskin black 700x28 tires
* Continental Gatorskin black 700x28 tires, these fit too tightly on the Quill rims, and I want some thing a little fatter on this bike.
* Continental standard tubes
* For the Quill rims, you want a medium-longish stem on the tube and minimum of 28mm diameter, 28-32 is good.
* Interloc Racing Design 1-1/8" headset
* Rim tape, I bought about 5 sizes LOL and the best for this rim was Continental "Easy Tape" in the 18mm width.
* Dimension stem 80mm x 83/97 degree 31.8mm
* Interloc Racing Design 1-1/8" headset (accidentally ordered 3 and returned 2. :-) Sheesh.
* Ritchey classic 2 bolt seatpost 27.2mm x 350mm  
* Dimension stem 80mm x 83/97 degree 31.8mm (that's 1 1/4") (Universal calls it 83/97, the box called it 7 degree.)
* Ritchey classic 2 bolt seatpost 27.2mm x 350mm (Someday I should cut it.)
* Thomson seatpost clamp 29.8mm
* Thomson seatpost clamp 29.8mm
* Fenders, I think I have a set leftover from the [[Raleigh Alyeska]]
* Fenders, I think I have a set leftover from the [[Raleigh Alyeska]], but they don't really fit.
* Salsa Gel Cork tape HT2214 They call it "yellow" I call it "lovely orangey goes with Olive, earth tone vibe."
* Rear rack? The [[Davidson Discovery]] set up with a small rack and Carradice bag has been great. I have many frames in storage right now. Maybe the Tubus that came on the [[Longbikes Slipstream]]?
* Rear rack? The [[Davidson Discovery]] set up with a small rack and Carradice bag has been great. I have many frames in storage right now. Maybe the Tubus that came on the [[Longbikes Slipstream]]?


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== Dropouts and hangers ==
== Dropouts and hangers ==


I am inclined at some point to replace the derailleur hanger with
The mechanic setting up my crankset reported the derailleur side drop out was bent, probably in shipping. I took this opportunity to order
(https://www.paragonmachineworks.com/hangers-inserts/adjustable-dropouts/10-mm-right-side-insert-for-sliding-dropout-no-hanger-choose-color.html a simpler one).
 
According to  
special Rohloff dropouts from ([https://www.paragonmachineworks.com/hangers-inserts/adjustable-dropouts/10-mm-right-side-insert-for-sliding-dropout-no-hanger-choose-color.html https://www.paragonmachineworks.com/] Paragon Machine Works). They are beautiful. According to  
(https://www.mtbr.com/threads/info-on-soma-tange-ird-adjustable-dropouts-analog-juice-b-side-wolverine.962971/ this MTBR link) I can use any  
(https://www.mtbr.com/threads/info-on-soma-tange-ird-adjustable-dropouts-analog-juice-b-side-wolverine.962971/ this MTBR link) I can use any  
(https://www.paragonmachineworks.com/hangers-inserts/inserts.html Paragon Machine Works sliding dropout inserts)  
(https://www.paragonmachineworks.com/hangers-inserts/inserts.html Paragon Machine Works sliding dropout inserts)  
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The (https://www.paragonmachineworks.com/faqs/adjustable-dropouts.html Paragon website has excellent technical information),
The (https://www.paragonmachineworks.com/faqs/adjustable-dropouts.html Paragon website has excellent technical information),
the Tange and Interloc sites have '''nothing'''. Soma has the specs I needed to start learning and ordering parts.
the Tange and Interloc sites have '''nothing'''. Soma has the specs I needed to start learning and ordering parts.
The ones I got have no derailleur hanger on the right (cleaner look) and a deep dropout on the left that accomodates the Rohloff mounting plate that I had to order from ENGLAND.


== Hardware ==
== Hardware ==

Revision as of 18:51, 14 May 2023

I'm living in Astoria. It rains here. All the time.

I think I will name this bike "Moss". Nope. She is Olive.

Initial component specs October 2021, updated on completion May 2023

  • Soma Wolverine "B" Moss Green 56CM -- finally back in stock February 2022
  • Soma Wolverine unicrown fork, also green
  • Rohloff 500/14 Speedhub (32 hole) with Co-motion shifter
  • DT Swiss 350 front hub (32 hole) 15mm through axle centerlock disc
  • Velocity Quill rims 32 hole black 700C, ERD 589
  • DT Swiss Competition 2.0 double butted spokes on the back 263 mm on both sides.
  • DT Swiss 12mm nipples
  • I ended up having Universal build the front wheel because I bought the wrong spokes. First I tried 288/286 then I tried 286/284. Stupid DT calculator. Grrr.
  • Magura MT-8 Pro Carbon hydraulic disc brakes - these end up on J's Civia Parkway, wow what a great upgrade!
  • TRP Spyre mechanical disc brakes, sadly there are no Magura brakes for drop bars and I want drops.
  • Magura Storm 160mm rotors, front and rear
  • Gates CDX sprocket stainless steel 19t
  • Gates Carbon Drive CDX belt 155t x 1265mm
  • Deda 215 drop bars with a 26mm center, so I had to buy 26->31.8 shims for the stem and the shifter. Got these used in a shop in Sebastopol.
  • Continental Gatorskin black 700x28 tires, these fit too tightly on the Quill rims, and I want some thing a little fatter on this bike.
  • For the Quill rims, you want a medium-longish stem on the tube and minimum of 28mm diameter, 28-32 is good.
  • Rim tape, I bought about 5 sizes LOL and the best for this rim was Continental "Easy Tape" in the 18mm width.
  • Interloc Racing Design 1-1/8" headset (accidentally ordered 3 and returned 2. :-) Sheesh.
  • Dimension stem 80mm x 83/97 degree 31.8mm (that's 1 1/4") (Universal calls it 83/97, the box called it 7 degree.)
  • Ritchey classic 2 bolt seatpost 27.2mm x 350mm (Someday I should cut it.)
  • Thomson seatpost clamp 29.8mm
  • Fenders, I think I have a set leftover from the Raleigh Alyeska, but they don't really fit.
  • Salsa Gel Cork tape HT2214 They call it "yellow" I call it "lovely orangey goes with Olive, earth tone vibe."
  • Rear rack? The Davidson Discovery set up with a small rack and Carradice bag has been great. I have many frames in storage right now. Maybe the Tubus that came on the Longbikes Slipstream?

Bottom bracket + crankset?

I still need to finalize the bottom bracket and crankset and chainring. The issue is picking parts that will give me the correct chainline for whatever frame I get.

Dropouts and hangers

The mechanic setting up my crankset reported the derailleur side drop out was bent, probably in shipping. I took this opportunity to order

special Rohloff dropouts from (https://www.paragonmachineworks.com/ Paragon Machine Works). They are beautiful. According to (https://www.mtbr.com/threads/info-on-soma-tange-ird-adjustable-dropouts-analog-juice-b-side-wolverine.962971/ this MTBR link) I can use any (https://www.paragonmachineworks.com/hangers-inserts/inserts.html Paragon Machine Works sliding dropout inserts) with the Soma Interloc/Tange dropouts. This is good information.

The (https://www.paragonmachineworks.com/faqs/adjustable-dropouts.html Paragon website has excellent technical information), the Tange and Interloc sites have nothing. Soma has the specs I needed to start learning and ordering parts.

The ones I got have no derailleur hanger on the right (cleaner look) and a deep dropout on the left that accomodates the Rohloff mounting plate that I had to order from ENGLAND.

Hardware

qty usage size 4 Dropouts M8 x 1.25 x 18 mm

racks and fenders

water bottles - glass filled fiberglass, 100 for $17 tensile strength 27,000 - these are to fill the extra holes and be impervious to water and very light. 6 in the frame and 6 in the fork


M5 x 10mm PMW $4.45 MC grade2 socket head $3.19, cap head grade 5 $11

Ti screws can take higher torque, which makes them good for the dropout hangers.

There are no button head screws from McMaster. SS with tensile strength 70,000 would be $11 for 25 screws. Hex head (which I can't use) Ti are $14 each and tensile strength 130,000

Ever had a critical SS screw break off? Hmm I have... Ti is far stronger...

(https://mcmaster.com McMaster-Carr)

Paragon Machine Works- (https://www.paragonmachineworks.com/catalog/product/view/id/3560/s/titanium-screws-for-conventional-sliding-dropouts-choose-style/category/468/ Dropout screws)